Why do prisons exist?
This is not a question of about parroted nonsense and cultural norms. I mean what end product do they produce that justifies their existence in the first place.
I'm physically disabled and have been living in a prison like situation for nearly 11 years. How does my situation balance into the ethics of prisons? I'm on a path to homelessness and a premature death due to institutionalized neglect and abuse from US institutions. Criminals are housed and fed in exchange for similar isolation, abuse, danger, insurmountable debt, and a largely unemployable and destitute future. These seem to conflict in ethics.
kitnaht
in reply to j4k3 • • •We've decided morally, that killing is wrong. So if killing is wrong, but we have to keep killers out of society, then we've got to put them in a place away from society. Somewhere along the way, we decided that killing isn't the only thing that requires you be separated from society.
You haven't committed a crime, therefore are free to succeed or fail at life all on your own. Society hasn't judged you, therefore society hasn't seen the need to take care of you either.
Oisteink
in reply to kitnaht • • •With a few exceptions of life sentences, this is not how prisons works. We have prisons to separate the bad apples for a while, and we use that time to rehabilitate the apples. Its not a perfect solution bit it works better than without prison.
Edit to clarify that this is about prison
kitnaht
in reply to Oisteink • • •Pretending that people get rehabilitated in prison, LOLOL
That's some LARP level imagination you got there.
Oisteink
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in reply to Oisteink • • •This clearly says US Institutions.
This person wouldn't be posting here if they were from Norway.
Akasazh
in reply to kitnaht • • •The question was about prisons in general, their personal experience being the basis of them questioning the ethicality of the concept of prisons.
For that matter the Norwegian example is a perfect antithesis to the punitive American system.
Therefore they were absolutely on topic. You may freshen up on comprehensive reading.
kitnaht
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in reply to Akasazh • • •Akasazh
in reply to kitnaht • • •No it (and multiple other re-intergration based incareration systems are more effective and socially health than the punitive system the USA uses.
Anserweing OP's question if incareration can be made more ethical than is currently the case in the USA.
It's quite on topic really.
kitnaht
in reply to Akasazh • • •You go ahead and get right on that. Let me know how that goes.
Dasus
in reply to kitnaht • • •Wow, so your answer is to... not even attempt anything? Just declare "nope, that's impossible (despite evidence to the contrary) so why bother trying"?
Let me know how that goes...
kitnaht
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in reply to j4k3 • •Ask Lemmy reshared this.